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Sony Full Frame Nex is Here! A7, A7r, RX10 Officially Announced!

The Sony Full Frame Nex is finally here and called the A7 and A7r officially. Basically what we have here is two full frame e-Mount cameras based off the RX1 chassis and the best from the previous Nex camera designs. The viewfinder is now on the top in the middle and the camera body has weather sealing!
The rear lcd is ultra high res and articulates just like the Nex-6. Customization looks plentiful with a Fn button and two other customizable buttons. Audio in and out ports, a hdmi and usb port with a metal weather sealed door.

Small NP-FW50 battery unfortunately, but an optional vertical grip is also available and looks like a killer addition for studio or wedding work. This new full frame camera system really does looks like a viable upgrade investment to me at the moment!
Sony also announced the Cyber-shot RX10, and I will get to that after the full frame gear 😉

Sony A7 Full Frame Mirrorless Camera

The new Sony A7 looks like a blend of the RX1, Nex-7 and A900 to me, yet refined and optimized.

$1,698.00 (Body Only)

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$1,998.00 w/ FE 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS Lens

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Sony A7r – Full Frame Mirrorless Camera

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The full frame A7r is the better model of the two and looks pretty much identical on the outside minus the badge. The inside of the camera is much different though having a much beefier chassis design and of course the 36mp next generation full frame sensor. The new sensor has special micro lenses on each pixel and they offset them in corners to make up for the short 18mm e-mount flange distance, and angle of light hitting the sensor. This is a really good idea and alternative to a curved sensor design which I though they might use. I’m not sure how this will effect using old school lenses.
$2,298.00 (body Only)
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Sony A7r Key differences:

  • 36.3MP Full Frame Exmor CMOS Sensor
  • No Optical Low-Pass Filter
  • Gapless On-Chip Lens Design

Sony A7 VS Olympus OM-D E-M1

I loved the way the Olympus OM-D E-M1 looked when it was first announced not that long ago, and the specs are literally to die for! The smaller micro-four thirds sensor was the only downside for me personal and I wished Sony would come out with the same thing, but APS-C or full frame. Well the A7 and A7r are pretty much exactly that.
See below for a more clear cut comparison view of these two awesome and very similar built cameras. Comparison images tool used courtesy of camerasize.com

Click images for a higher res view!

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Sony A7 VS Nex-6

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New Sony Full Frame E-Mount Lenses

Here are the new FE-Mount lenses (Full frame E-Mount)

G Lens 70-200mm F4 OSS Telephoto Zoom Lens (model SEL70200G)              The new premium 70-200mm G Lens covers a generous zoom range of 70-200mm and is an ideal choice for travel photography and long-range shooting.  The innovative optical design of the new zoom reflects its G Lens pedigree.  Two ED glass elements are combined with three aspherical elements for high resolution and contrast throughout the entire zoom range, minimizing distortion and color aberration.  Like the new Carl Zeiss prime lenses, the 70-200mm G model has a circular aperture that enables smooth, professional quality background defocus, and maintains a constant F4 maximum aperture for plenty of brightness at all zoom settings.  It also features Optical SteadyShot to cut the effects of camera shake while shooting.
FE 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS Lens – SEL2870

Bundled with the a7 in this kit is the new FE 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS E-mount lens. This wide-to-portrait zoom incorporates three aspherical elements and one extra-low dispersion element into its design to minimize chromatic aberrations and enhance overall image clarity. An optical SteadyShot image stabilization system has also been added to minimize the appearance of camera shake to suit working in dim lighting and with low shutter speeds. Its minimum focus distance is 11.8″.
Sony A7 w/ 28-70mm lens $1998 @ BHPhoto (Click Here) | Amazon (Click Here)
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FE Vario-Tessar T* 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens – SEL2470F4Z

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The Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens is a wide-angle to portrait-length zoom lens that features a constant f/4 maximum aperture to support consistent performance in regard to exposure settings and focus placement throughout the zoom range. Five aspherical elements and one extra-low dispersion element help to reduce aberrations and distortions while contributing to notable image sharpness and clarity. A Carl Zeiss T* anti-reflective coating has also been applied to lens elements to reduce lens flare and ghosting for improved contrast and color fidelity.
This lens also integrates Optical SteadyShot image stabilization to lessen the appearance of camera shake when working in low-light conditions or with longer focal lengths. Additionally, a dust- and moisture-resistant construction ensures this lens’ use in tough environmental conditions.

  • The mid-range zoom 24-70mm lens covers wide-angle to portrait-length perspectives and features a constant f/4 maximum aperture for consistent performance throughout the zoom range.
  • Five aspherical elements and one extra-low dispersion element help minimize aberrations and distortions throughout the zoom range while contributing to high overall clarity.
  • Tessar concept enables the lens design to be compact while maintaining high image quality and sharpness.
  • Carl Zeiss T* anti-reflective coating lessens lens flare and ghosting for contrast-rich imagery with sustained color neutrality.
  • Optical SteadyShot image stabilization minimizes the appearance of camera shake to better suit working with longer shutter speeds and telephoto focal lengths.
  • Dust- and moisture-resistant design enables ensured performance when working in inclement environmental conditions.
  • Circular diaphragm enables a smooth out-of-focus quality that is well-suited to shallow depth of field imagery.

Sony 24-70mm F4 ZA OSS Lens – $1,198 @ BHPhoto (Click Here) | Amazon (Click Here)

FE 70-200mm F4 OSS Telephoto Zoom Lens – SEL70200G

 The new premium 70-200mm G Lens covers a generous zoom range of 70-200mm and is an ideal choice for travel photography and long-range shooting.
The innovative optical design of the new zoom reflects its G Lens pedigree.  Two ED glass elements are combined with three aspherical elements for high resolution and contrast throughout the entire zoom range, minimizing distortion and color aberration.
Like the new Carl Zeiss prime lenses, the 70-200mm G model has a circular aperture that enables smooth, professional quality background defocus, and maintains a constant F4 maximum aperture for plenty of brightness at all zoom settings.  It also features Optical SteadyShot to cut the effects of camera shake while shooting.
*Pricing and availability for the new G Lens 70-200mm F4 OSS Telephoto zoom is still TBD.

FE 35mm F2.8 ZA Lens – SEL35F28Z

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The Sony Sonnar T* FE 35mm f/2.8 ZA Lens is a prime, wide-angle lens that features a fast, bright f/2.8 maximum aperture to support enhanced low-light performance and greater control over focus for shallow depth of field and selective focus imagery. Three double-sided aspherical elements, totaling six aspherical surfaces, work to minimize spherical aberrations and contribute to notable image sharpness. A Carl Zeiss T* anti-reflective coating has also been applied to lens elements to reduce lens flare and ghosting for improved contrast and color fidelity.
An internal focusing mechanism maintains the overall lens size during focusing and aids in faster, more responsive performance. Additionally, a dust- and moisture-resistant construction ensures this lens’ use in tough environmental conditions.

  • This prime wide-angle lens features a bright f/2.8 maximum aperture to benefit working in low-light conditions and for greater control over the plane of focus.
  • Three double-sided aspherical elements, for a total of six aspherical surfaces, help to reduce spherical aberrations while also contributing to high image sharpness and clarity.
  • Carl Zeiss T* anti-reflective coating lessens lens flare and ghosting for contrast-rich imagery with sustained color neutrality.
  • An internal focusing mechanism maintains the overall lens length during focusing for greater consistency and faster performance.
  • Dust- and moisture-resistant design enables ensured performance when working in inclement environmental conditions.
  • Nine-blade circular diaphragm enables a smooth out-of-focus quality that is well-suited to shallow depth of field imagery.

Sony FE 35mm F2.8 ZA Lens –$798  @ BHPhoto (Click Here) | Amazon (Click Here)

FE 55mm F1.8 ZA Lens – SEL55F18Z

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The Sony Sonnar T* FE 55mm f/1.8 ZA Lens is a prime, normal focal length lens featuring a very fast and bright f/1.8 maximum aperture to support working in dimly-lit conditions and for greater control over focus for shallow depth of field imagery. The sophisticated Sonnar optical design enables high resolution and sharpness with optimized low-light shooting capabilities. A Carl Zeiss T* anti-reflective coating has also been applied to lens elements to reduce lens flare and ghosting for improved contrast and color fidelity. Additionally, a dust- and moisture-resistant construction ensures this lens’ use in tough environmental conditions.

  • This prime normal-length lens features a bright f/1.8 maximum aperture to benefit working in low-light conditions and for greater control over the plane of focus.
  • Carl Zeiss T* anti-reflective coating lessens lens flare and ghosting for contrast-rich imagery with sustained color neutrality.
  • Dust- and moisture-resistant design enables ensured performance when working in inclement environmental conditions.
  • Nine-blade circular diaphragm enables a smooth out-of-focus quality that is well-suited to shallow depth of field imagery.

Sony FE 55mm F1.8 ZA Lens – $998 @ BHPhoto (Click Here) | Amazon.com (Click Here)
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Sony A7 and A7R Key Accessories

Sony came out with a few key accessories for the A7 and A7r including the Vertical battery Grip, LAEA3 and LAEA4 lens adapters!

Vertical battery Grip – VGC1EM

This black Vertical Battery Grip from Sony allows for long-term, comfortable shooting in the vertical orientation with your Alpha a7 or a7R digital camera. It accepts 1-2 NP-FW50 batteries, which are available separately, to extend and possibly even double your shooting time. The grip uses a battery with lower power first, then automatically switches to the one with greater power when the first runs out. Remaining battery power is displayed as a percentage on your camera’s LCD monitor. Additionally, batteries can be replaced without turning off the camera.

Sony Vertical Battery Grip for Alpha a7 or a7R Digital Camera

The grip offers an extra shutter button, located at the low position, and other controls placed appropriately for easy, comfortable access. A strap hole allows you to attach the optional STP-GB1AM Grip Belt. The buttons, dials, battery cover and connecting terminal on the grip are securely sealed for dust and moisture protection.
$298

A-Mount to E-Mount Lens Adapter – LAEA3

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The black A-Mount to E-Mount Lens Adapter from Sony enables you to attach any A-mount lens to an Alpha E-mount full-frame digital camera body. It supports Auto Exposure (AE) and features an aperture mechanism. The adapter is also configured with a detachable tripod mount for supporting large, heavy lenses. Additionally, the ALC-B55 camera body cap and a rear lens cap are supplied.
$198

A-Mount to E-Mount Lens Adapter – LAEA4

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The black A-Mount to E-Mount Lens Adapter from Sony enables you to attach virtually any A-mount lens to an Alpha E-mount full-frame digital camera body. Teleconverters and Minolta XI lenses are not compatible. The adapter features a built-in AF motor, aperture-drive mechanism and Translucent Mirror Technology to enable full-time, continuous, TTL phase-detection autofocus. AF is supported with all A-mount lenses except STF models, and auto exposure will be enabled with all compatible lenses.
Translucent Mirror Technology effectively directs light to both the imaging and focus sensors simultaneously, enabling AF to work seamlessly even during video recording and continuous shooting. For video, aperture is fixed at the maximum f/stop of the lens or at f/3.5, whichever is lower.
The adapter is configured with a tripod mount for supporting large, heavy lenses. An ALC-B55 camera body cap, ALC-R1EM rear lens cap and carrying pouch are supplied.
$348
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Sony A7 and A7R Field Test

Check out this awesome field test by Chris Niccolls via TheCameraStoreTV

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Published on Oct 15, 2013

We’ve been hoping for someone besides Leica to make a full frame, interchangeable lens mirrorless camera, and Sony has finally produced the cameras we’ve been waiting for! In this episode The Camera Store TV’s Chris Niccolls checks out the new Sony A7 and A7R, full frame mirrorless cameras with killer specs for the price. See if they live up to the huge promise they offer.[/quote]

More A7 and A7r Hands-0n Reports

Courtesy of Imaging-resource, we have a hands-on report by Dave Etchells, and some additional technical info by Mike Tomkins:
A few parts I found very interesting, but Click Here for the full report.

It also includes the Lock-On Autofocus function first seen in the Sony A58, which tracks your subject as it passes between focus points, or strays outside of the focus point coverage area. (It’s the first time this tech has been included by Sony in a camera without phase detection.)

The Sony A7 still sports the company’s mirrorless E-mount, but it now accepts new Sony FE full-frame lenses. Five Sony FE lenses debut alongside the camera, and Sony tells us it aims to have 10 FE lenses by the end of next year, and 15 lenses by the end of 2015. Of the currently-announced lenses, two are primes, and three are stabilized zooms.

Although it doesn’t provide a count for the number of seals, Sony describes the A7’s magnesium-alloy body as both dust and moisture-resistant.
The HDMI port is interesting, too, though. According to Sony, it’s the first to automatically detect 4K displays, and provide a 4K ultra high-def video output when one is detected. The HDMI port is also unusual in that it can be used at the same time as the camera’s LCD monitor.

Luminous-Landscape also has a hands-on report which is excellent and makes me want the new A7 even more! (Click Here)

Brian Smith Pictures has a excellent field test using the A7r(Click Here) – Many awesome sample photos worth checking out!

Blog-Sina has some A7 sample photos and the battery grip mounted. (Click Here)

ePhotozine Sony A7r Hands-On Review (Click Here)

Sony RX10

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 Digital Camera
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The Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 Digital Camera is a compact, point-and-shoot camera that features a large 20.2MP, 1″, Exmor R, CMOS sensor. Updating from the successful RX1 and RX100 digital cameras, the RX10 houses the new BIONZ X image processor.
The built-in, Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T*, 8.3x optical zoom lens provides a 35mm-equivalent focal length range of 24-200mm, covering abroad range of focal lengths to provide versatile, multi-functional shooting from one zoom lens.
A constant maximum aperture of f/2.8 is effective in low light and provides shallow depth of field focus control. Optical SteadyShot image stabilization is also available to help minimize the effects of camera shake when working in dimly-lit conditions and with greater zoom magnifications. The lens also features 7 aspherical elements to minimize aberrations and distortion and Carl Zeiss T* anti-reflective coating, which helps to reduce surface reflections, lens flare, and ghosting in order to produce imagery that is rich in contrast and clarity.
A new Direct Drive, Supersonic Wave Motor (SSM) provides fast and smooth autofocus action while Eye AF enables precise eye-detection focusing with confirmation that a subject’s eye is in focus even if their head is partially turned. Flexible Spot areas allow precise focus placement, and Lock-on AF keeps focus locked on a moving subject, even if that subject leaves the frame momentarily. Seamless close-up shooting is also supported, which no longer requires the need to switch to a dedicated macro mode, for focusing on subjects as close as 11.8″.
The RX10 also features a large 3.0″, 1228K-dot, Xtra Fine LCD monitor with a tilting design to better serve working from high and low angles. WhiteMagic technology is incorporated into the display to increase the effective brightness of the screen. Also, the XGA OLED Tru-Finder electronic viewfinder integrates four aspherical elements for sharp eye-level composition. An automatic eye-sensor recognizes when an eye is at the viewfinder and illuminates the EVF while turning off the LCD.
Full HD 1080 video is supported in both 60i/p and 24p frame rates and in both AVCHD format and MP4. A built-in stereo microphone and an external mic jack are provided as is a headphone jack from audio monitoring. Professional features such as full manual exposure control and uncompressed off-camera recording are also supported.
Built-in Wi-Fi and NFC (Near Field Connectivity) allow for easy wireless connections to smartphones and tablets in order to transfer images for sharing as well as to use your smartphone as a remote control via the free Sony PlayMemories app.
The compact magnesium alloy body of the RX-10 is moisture and dust resistant and offers a built-in pop-up flash, the Sony Multi-Interface shoe for connecting flashes, microphones, lights, monitors, and other accessories.  A selectable click or click-less manual control ring on the lens lets you adjust numerous camera settings without taking your eye from the image and customizable buttons provides fast access to the camera settings that you need most.

~$1,298.00

Closing Remarks:

Anybody want to buy my Sony Nex-6? 🙂 Seriously, I really want one of these full frame A7 cameras, but can’t decide on which one. The higher resolution would be good for everything except sports very often. The focus speed is very import when it comes to capturing photos of moving kids and dogs for example. The new Eye AF feature looks awesome for when your really close to your subject and using a fast lens like f/1.8 for example. The face recognition does an excellent job currently, but having the eye is clearly better. Even if it leaves the frame it will remember and track from one focus point to another. The issue is speed though, because contrast AF is significantly slower than the hybrid AF, so this really matters to me.
Thanks,
Jay

  1. Anyone one want to buy my NIkon DSLR gear ? 🙂 Seriously I think it is time to sell it with all my Nikon glass. Never use it anyway as I have been hooked on system cameras for awhile.
    Also time to sell my NEX7 and 5n –
    A7/R look nice and I am so happy not to see the old NEX menu system 🙂
    I guess there is no touch LCD – really would have been nice – like touch to focus and shoot. The other thing is loud shutter – So I will still keep my GX7 which has a totally quiet shutter option.
    Price on A7 with kit lens is not as bad as I expected and would have been awesome if it had no AA filter.

    1. Hi John and thanks for the comments 😉
      I agree the price on the A7 is totally reasonable and less expensive than I anticipate. So affordable in fact it makes the RX1 seam crazy to me? The Low pass filter was needed I think for the video to me good at the 4k resolution. Otherwise it would not be their I believe. The touch lcd would be nice I agree, but the pro menu and weather sealing totally makes up for that in my opinion. The loud shutter I don’t see as an issue, but to some it is important I understand. Myself, it’s not a factor at all.
      I’m getting the 24mp A7 with kit lens to review first, and I may just keep it!
      Best,
      Jay

  2. I currently use a Mark iii and a NEX 6 and have found myself using the NEX more often because of the size. The specs of the A7 Models are great but no built in flash makes me hesitate buying one.
    I cannot tell you who many times I have missed the built in flash on the Mark iii and use the flash on the NEX 6.
    I understand why Sony did not include a built in flash but I do not see me carrying around an external flash.

    1. Hello Mark: Fellow Nex 6 owner here. What Lenses are you using with your NEX 6? Which Lens on your NEX do you think gets you to the closest to your Mark III experience ?

    2. Hi Mark,
      The built in flash is a nice feature, but no Pro would ever use one for a quality shot. A snapshot, yes of course. This camera is made for the Pro, not snapshot photography. I believe that is the theory with the 5d Mark II and III not having one and so on. I guess it saves a little money on the camera design as well.
      Jay

      1. Jay, I understand why Sony did not include it but I am looking for the best camera in the smallest space. Give me a choice like a NEX 6. On the the mark iii, it is so big it is not as much an issue.
        If I brought the A7 to a party at night I would have to lug a flash along while a non issue with the NEX 6.

  3. I have a NEX 5 n with 16mm and 18-55 lenses. I want one of these full-frames real bad! Would my old lenses be worth keeping if I switch to a full- frame?

    1. Hi David,
      Not really worth keeping in my opinion, but they would work on the new full frame cameras in crop factor mode. S, better than nothing if you go for the body only purchase. If you have the 55-210mm I would keep that for a lightweight telephoto zoom with the crop factor advantage for additional effective zoom range.
      Which model you have in mind, the 24mp A7 or 36mp A7r??
      Thanks,
      Jay

      1. Since I do lots of landscapes, I lean toward the R with its greater resolution. Some problems with that, though:
        The R body plus 24-70 lens (my preference over the prime lenses) is $4500, while the 7 with 28-70 kit lens is $2000
        24-70 lens for the R not available until February, I heard
        No idea when wide angle comparable to current 10-18 lens may come out
        Even the regular 7 is a way better camera than I am a photographer. (I pretty much use my NEX5n as a point and shoot, and just use the software that came with it for editing. I don’t even have Photoshop.)
        All that said, however, I want to get the best photos I can and I am fortunate to have the time and money (I’m semi-retired) to get good equipment (and Photoshop) and learn how to use it.

          1. Hi David and thanks for the comments 😉 The full frame A7R will yield you better quality images than the Nex-7 for sure. If you want to get the most out of the camera its totally up to you, and it sounds like to your up for it to me. You will need to learn how to process raw files and create hdr photographs in order to get the most out of the camera these days. All of the images you see on the web today have pretty heavy processing compared to what comes off the camera. I post raw sample photos all the time for my reviews and when you see a fully edited HDR image it’s a night and day difference! Photoshop is an excellent program and I highly recommend investing the time and energy required to learn it. I have a ton of tutorial videos that will get you going on my youtube channel (Click Here), but I would also consider some books if you like to read, or signing up for something like lynda.com for example. I did for a few months years ago and watched everything I wanted to learn and then canceled. Please let me know if you have any questions.
            Jay

  4. I own the Sony NEX 7 and several lenses. I have the Sony 10-18, the Zeiss 24 and a Zeiss 18-80 A mount that I use with the LA_EA2 Adapter. Will I be happy with the performance of my NEX 7 lenses on the new full frame bodies or will the crop be frustrating? Will my A Lens also have a crop factor? I assume it will. Please advise. I’m trying to decide if I need to sell everything or can I keep my old body as a backup and use my old lenses on the new bodies. Thanks.

    1. Hi Steve,
      All your E-Mount lenses will work on the new A7 and A7r according to what I’ve read. It will perform pretty much the same exact way as your nex-7 does, but the resolution will vary depending on which model. Full frame coverage is a huge difference, so once you use a full frame lens, I suspect you will not be using your crop factor lenses as much. The 10-18mm wide angle lens would be nice to have regardless of the crop factor. The A-Mount 16-80mm Zeiss lens you have is also a crop factor lens unfortunately. I would not get rid of any lenses until you have an adequate replacement for the new camera.
      I hope that helps,
      Jay

    1. Hi Abdul,
      I’m chomping at the bit myself 🙂 The 36mp A7r is only $500 more than the A7 I keep telling myself over and over…
      Full frame A-Mount mirrorless supposedly in early 2014. 5-axis IBIS and the most advanced mirrorless technology to date supposedly. I wonder about the AF speed and how Sony will keep the A99 performance with no mirror at all. I’m sure it can be done with new technology, but as good as huge PDAF sensors and a mirror? Not sure….
      Thanks for the comments!
      Jay
      Jay

  5. Thanks for the information . I am not a Pro or even close but the A7 appeals to me .I have a Nex6 but only a couple of lenses .The A7R might be too much capability for me I think 🙂 but the thoughts of a full frame that’s is affordable ..wow …

  6. I really like my NEX 6 but man, these cameras looks amazing!! I think I’m going to get the a7 and the 35mm. Or maybe the 55mm which is closer which is closer to my fav SEL35. But the a7r is soo tempting too…..
    Man, Im lost 😀

    1. Thanks for the comments Flavio and I totally agree how amazing these look. I’m not sure which model I want either, so I will review both then decide 🙂 The A7 first with the kit lens, then the A7r with whatever other lenses are available. I think once I see how fast the af performance is on the A7 vs A7r, I will know what camera is for me! I want sharp shots of Layla and if the AF is slow on the A7r, it’s not worth the extra mp for me personally. I love shooting landscapes, but fast moving people, dogs, motor sports, and stuff like that is also needed.
      Jay

  7. Hi Jay,
    I love my nex 6, but this new camera looks like a dream.
    My question to you is: What would be my manual focus legacy lens choices that would be full frame and affordable. I would like a lens good enough to take advantage of the full frame for landscape photography.
    Thanks for a great website and all your hard work.
    Mike

    1. Hello Noovuss,
      That is a hard question, but you have so many to choose from on Ebay. Check out the Ultimate Lens and Lens adapter article Here >>
      I have the 50mm f/1.4 Minolta rokkor pg lens and really look forward to trying that out on the A7. They were on Ebay for around $100 not that long ago. I think a quality 35mm lens would also be a good choice for landscapes. Wider than 28mm can get expensive.
      Thanks for the kind words about the website Mike, and I hope that helps,
      Jay

  8. I was somewhat more clever, I never invested in any Sony APS-C lenses for the NEX-7 system, used all Minolta glass with the EA1 adapter in MF. I just got a 16/2.8 some day for the reason that they sold the lens in Hong Kong for 110$ on E-Bay.
    Now, if I see that A7 series, it remembers me Nikon’s V2 ugly duckling everyone commented so hatefully. but anyway, the price is ok and Sony has put the feet on the ground in that matter, except the 7R which is fair overpriced. but here we understand that delivering less technology for a higher pixel count and keeping the same price for both cameras had made the 24 mpix stay in the shelves, since pixel race has become a religion.
    I will opt for the 24 mpix, I like the higher ISO skills, then, the 24 mpix picture is that big, even too big for me. A good 12 mpix had made the job. Now, all I need is 35 mm, Voigtlaender 1.2 Nokton is the ultimate, then a 21/1.8 from the same brand, and I am served.
    If the RX1 was now going to drop in price, down under the 2000$ line, I would even consider that one. Silent operation, small size, and all the qualities it has, make it for me all I need anyway.
    So, let’s wait till December and find it in the local Sony stores once it comes out. I will first get a visual impression of the camera and then decide. 36 mpix is out of question, I do not need that picture size anyway.
    The 24 mpix has very attractive features and the technology taken over from the A99 is right in place here.
    I had a look on the RX10, but here, the misstake to use the 1 inch sensor instead of the good 20 mpix APS-C, makes this camera hell a lot too expensive at my view, specially of you consider the NEX-3 to sell at a just a bit more than the third of it’s price with the kit lens. Might have good skill and lens, but just too expensive, sorry Sony.
    It makes me laugh when you write to all to get rid of their lenses Jay, I think that this will be a pain in the butt. Or, you will sell now all the NEX APS-C at dumping prices. With those cameras Sony has brought now, you will get a NEX-7 soon for 500$ with the kit lens and all others for just nuts. Unless you sell at that price, you will sit on it for a long time. I will keep the NEX-7 and buy a 20mm pancake, it makes it perfect a pocket camera, a quality the A7 will never match anyway.
    Take care Jay
    Lou

    1. I would have bought the RX-10 in a heartbeat if it had been a APS-C, but not the way it is.
      I’ll get a A-7 with some good manual lenses and keep my nex-6 for now.

      1. Noovus,
        I hear ya about the APS-C on the RX10, but the lens would be much larger, or have slower aperture. The smaller 1inch sensor is what makes that lens possible in such a relative small form factor. Like the HX300 for example, but with significantly better IQ and less zoom. That 1″ sensor pumps out killer image quality, and the update makes it better in low light. Clearly not for everybody, but that Zeiss lens is bound to produce some amazing images. I can’t wait to review it honestly 😉
        Thanks for the comments,
        Jay

    2. Hi Lou and thanks for taking the time to share so much of your set-up, plans, and advice 😉
      Lots of people went down the full manual road, but a lot of folks want the auto focus also. Versatility is the key to the Nex system 😉 I have a few manual lenses for fun, but for kids and family fun AF is much faster for obvious reasons.
      I am also opting for the 24mp A7 model for the faster AF specifically.
      I also decided that getting the metabones adapter like Chris did in the review above, makes sense for me considering I have so much L canon glass. The 17-40mm f/4 L in particular is worth keeping for top quality wide angle full frame coverage. Again the versatility of the Sony systems is amazing and people are going to flock to this new camera big time I believe.
      The silent shutter on the RX1 is nice, but it’s slow max shutter makes it harder to use in the bright as a compromise. 1/8000sec is much better for the faster lenses and although the shutter is clearly loud I will take the lower price tag. I silent 1/8000sec shutter would have raised the price a fair amount I believe.
      I agree the RX10 seems a bit to expensive, but the lens is amazing don’t forget and the build quality is supposed to be great. We shall see for sure though.
      I’m telling everybody to get rid of their lenses Lou. I’m just offering the best advice that I can offer for any given question and situation. Please remember, I’m not some super genius that knows everything, but just trying to offer my honest opinion.
      If your going to full frame and have no interest in keeping your old crop factor camera, you don’t think people will prefer a full frame lens over a crop factor lens? I don’t think the Nex-7 is going to drop to $500 for some time. The high end crop factor cameras like the Nex-7 and Nex-6 will hold value for some time in my opinion. Clearly there will be an initial mass selling, but once that clears up it will be business as usual. Only Pro’s and serious enthusiasts will want the full frame camera do to the price tag.
      Have a god day, gatta run,
      Jay

      1. I will keep my Nex-7 and will even get a 4/3 system beside of it, I think seriously about a Gx7. The main problem is DOF, and here, there is not every situation where I want people to see parts of my shot in blurred. I need shots, like tourism events, and some nature shots, in full sharpness form front to rear. I am a specialist in mushrooms, for example, and documenting what I find in the woods, needs optimal sharpness in depth, I can not use a shot where a plane of 5 mm are in the clear and one can’t see the rest.
        This FF folly we assist to is totally off subject, since it is not proven with anything that a FF sensor makes a better picture, he makes a different picture, that’s all. For sure, we do not compare here things lower than the 1″ sensor, despite some do a good job for normal urban use.
        The use of different sensor sizes is a must when you are into many different subjects, and different photo styles as well. I am sure that many will regret the in depth sharpness when they use FF. Wit half frame you can take a super fast lens and get a good DOF use as well, but you can not do this with a FF where in depth sharpness in close range is impossible.
        Now, you said that a NEX-7 for 500$ will not be for tomorrow. I am not that sure, be happy if it happens, you can buy one for cheap. The reason is that Sony has filed a new patent for the NEX5 to be marketed with the FF sensor. We are thus on the eve of a new experience and will see, at least I hope so, a parallel consumer camera development by Sony in FF and Apsc, and in the same bodies. Now, lets wait the A7 clone to appear in APSC with the 20 mpix chip, that would be a great camera to buy as well. And, as I know Sony, they are able to do that.
        I miss the presentation of Nikon’s new DF cuckoo egg on you site, for sure it is a Sony site, but showing that mistake on a picture will not harm your reputation, hehehe. It is in some way a sour cherry wrapped with sweet cream, or what you would call “a donkey in a 2750$ suit”. It looks great, period, to comment something more about it would be wasting time.

        1. Hi Shamael,
          I really appreciate your comments on the full frame folly as your calling it 😉
          Your really bringing it home to “the gear doesn’t matter” argument it sounds like Shamael. And you are correct in a lot of ways, but the image quality is better on a full frame sensor. The DXOMark sensor scores proves this with hard data. Better dynamic range, better noise control, better color bit-depth, ect.. Of course this doesn’t mean better photographer behind the wheel…
          Depth of field is another discussion and you have a great point there. The depth of field is much narrower on a full frame sensor camera and it is much harder if not impossible to get the frame sharp from front to back in certain situations. You could focus stack! The smaller sensors inferior depth of filed control has an advantage in this particular situation. It’s only because the sensor is much smaller though. Not because it’s better or worse. Although the DXOMark test results do say the smaller sensors are not as good generally. The newer M4/3rds sensors are awesome though, no question. The new Olympus E-M1 looks killer if your a Micro 4/3 fan!
          If your using a wide angle lens and your not at the minimum focus distance, it’s pretty easy to get a sharp frame front to back. Only when you get on top of something is this a real issue, and to be honest, it’s and issue with APS-C sized sensors to. It really depends on what focal length, minimum focus distance, how far the background is from the focus point, ect..
          I saw the Nex5 patent, but don’t think it will happen honestly, although it very well might..
          I still don’t see the Nex-7 going for $500 any time soon, but who knows 😉

          I miss the presentation of Nikon’s new DF cuckoo egg on you site, for sure it is a Sony site, but showing that mistake on a picture will not harm your reputation, hehehe.

          Yeah, the New Nikon DF was cool to look at for about 5 seconds. Being the same FX mount I knew the camera was going to be thick like a Nikon DSLR. At first glance it almost looks like a new mirrorless concept, but it’s not. I guess Nikon is trying to provide something smaller for there current full frame users to keep them from jumping ship to Sony? You know, keeping them calmer during the Sony FF storm perhaps?
          Jay

  9. I forgot a few words about RX10. Yes, it is a good built camera, but do not forget that bridge style cameras target tourists and newbies, and for that category, the camera is too expensive. Do not forget that you get any ILS system for the same price, and this includes GX7 as well. If you can produce and sell an ILS like the NEX3n for 495$ with a zoom lens included, this camera pricing is definitely too high. Even NEX5T with the EVF will be less expensive or close to it. The common mortal who never shot a photo knows nuts about Zeiss, and if you show him on a screen pictures shot by 50 cameras, he barely sees the difference. I have seen many picture samples shot with it and, yes, they are good pictures, but for the price you pay, you can get better with ease. A 750$ APSC pocketable beats its IQ without any problems, and see the pricing of some of the PEN systems. But, we know Sony and the thousand new things they brought and which disappeared over night. It reminds me the fantastic bridge they had with the 10 mpix APSC chip, they brought it on the market even before Nikon used the chip in the D200. That was a heck of a camera, and it disappeared as fast as it came, what is a pity, it was correctly priced at that time. On the end, I will not buy it, so it will not cause me any problem ether.

    1. Shamael,
      Well, the RX10 is targeted to Documentary Film Makers specifically. That is a Nitch and Sony knows it. Supposedly the video capabilities are amazing and the lens aperture ring has a notch less option for killer depth transitions. It’s targeted for people that know what it is, not for those also looking at the HX300 bridge camera for example. Completely different target market according to Sony and what I’ve read. This is a Pro quality Bridge camera with extra powerful HD video capabilities.
      I agree the price is still on the higher than ideal side. IQ will prove to be amazing though I suspect and just reserved a unit for myself to review shortly 😉 The AF performance is what I’m most curious about, but I have no doubt Sony’s facial recognition technology and other advanced features will help it work fast and accurate. How fast is the question?
      Jay

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